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	<title>The Plastic Lens ~ Words &#187; Diana</title>
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		<title>35mm Back for the Diana +</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received my last order from the Lomographic Society on Friday; a 35mm back for the Diana + cameras, with most of the English instructions missing due to a misprint. I had also ordered a Diana + Edelweiss edition that was broken (lens assembly completely detached from the body, dangling by the wires for the [...]]]></description>
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<p> received my last order from the Lomographic Society on Friday; a 35mm back for the Diana + cameras, with most of the English instructions missing due to a misprint. I had also ordered a Diana + Edelweiss edition that was broken (lens assembly completely detached from the body, dangling by the wires for the flash) before I even got it out of it&#8217;s box. I will be interested to see how the LSI address my concerns, but I have been feeling that the business side of the lomography community/family has changed from being customer focussed to being totally profit driven now, with a good deal of cynicism thrown in for good measure. A few of my friends and online contacts would argue this has been the case for a while but I have held out until recently, believing (hoping) they still cared more about analog photography and the people still practicing it than <em><strong>just</strong></em> the money&#8230;<br />
Oh well. Because my manual had missing information, I had to ask online for the missing pages (thanks cannibal.animal) as I didn&#8217;t want to bust anything when fitting the 35mm back. I thought some people might appreciate a visual walkthrough of the process of fitting the back to the Diana + camera. Kai&#8217;s &#8216;out of the box&#8217; review of the 35mm kit which I mention in the video can be found <a href="http://dianacamera.com/archives/151">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Of Diana + Lenses</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine on flicker sent me a message, quite concerned that she had stuffed up her Diana + camera by putting on one of it’s accessory lenses the wrong way. She had put her fisheye lens on without aligning the white dots and was also finding it quite stiff when trying to remove [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine on flicker sent me a message, quite concerned that she had stuffed up her Diana + camera by putting on one of it’s accessory lenses the wrong way. She had put her fisheye lens on without aligning the white dots and was also finding it quite stiff when trying to remove the lens. She eventually did remove the lens, but it must have been a bit fragile as it fell into a few pieces.<br />
Normally putting accessory lenses onto a Diana + camera just involves getting the lens in the right position and giving a clockwise turn to secure it. You do the reverse to remove the lens. On initial usage the lens can be quite firmly engaged and you do need to use a bit of a firm twist to remove it, but this action usually loosens up a bit with repeated use and time. If you mis-align the lens, it won&#8217;t break your camera, but you will find the distance settings aren&#8217;t positioned where you expect them on the barrel. The alignment dots are for ergonomic reasons more than anything, so you can get to the distance adjustments easily.</p>
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		<title>Holga-Diana + Hybrid Experiment</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the day after WPPD (worldwide pinhole photography day) Randy Smith&#8217;s original Pinholga camera prototype arrived in the post, and a nice piece of Holga modification it is too! Having the pinhole plate secured by a screw in filter holder (Kodak Series V type known to Diana users who like to use filters on their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="abigletterb">W</span>ell, the day after WPPD (worldwide pinhole photography day) Randy Smith&#8217;s original Pinholga camera prototype arrived in the post, and a nice piece of Holga modification it is too! <a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-01.jpg' title="The Holga Diana Hybrid step #1 ~ The Original Holgamods Pinholga"  rel="lightbox[holgadiana]"><img src="http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-01-150x150.jpg" alt="The Original Holgamods Pinholga" width="150" height="150" style="float:left; margin: 10px;" /></a><a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-02.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="The Holga Diana Hybrid step #2 ~ showing the pinhole plate and filter ring removed. The Diana + lens is next to the filter ring."></a><a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-03.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="The Holga Diana Hybrid step #3 ~ showing the Diana + lens snugly fitted to the filter ring and my very makeshift aperture plate."></a> Having the pinhole plate secured by a screw in filter holder (Kodak Series V type known to Diana users who like to use filters on their plastic lenses) got me thinking I might be able to use this camera for more than just pinhole shots. The great thing about the new Diana + series of cameras is that the front element of their plastic lens (the actusl lens/aperture part) is removable to allow you to use different lenses (wide angle etc). With this in mind I removed the 75mm (standard Diana + lens) from my Diana + camera and checked it&#8217;s compatibility with the filter ring.  <a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-04.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="The Holga Diana Hybrid step #4 ~ the end result."><img src="http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/holgadianahybrid-04-150x150.jpg" alt="The Holga Diana Hybrid step #4 ~ the end result." width="150" height="150" style="float:right; margin: 10px;" /></a> It was a snug fit! Then I had to do was tape some small light leaks inside the camera that only became a problem when I took the pinhole plate out, but that left me with the fact I had no working aperture plate, so I then made a very makeshift aperture plate with part of an old polaroid pack-film casing and tin-snips and a drill (for the aperture) &#8211; it was not a pretty job, but would suffice to do some test Holga-Diana hybrid shots.<br />
The included images in this post show some of the process of the hybridization &#8211; click on the thumbnails to bring them up and scroll through all of them.<br />
<a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/bluestonevines.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="Bluestone Vines ~ a Holga-Diana hybrid photo"><img src="http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/bluestonevines-150x150.jpg" alt="Bluestone Vines ~ a Holga-Diana hybrid photo" style="float:left; margin:10px;" /></a><a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/davehybrid.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="Dave ~ a Holga-Diana hybrid photo"></a> I&#8217;ve shot one roll through the camera in pinhole mode (with rather disappointing results I&#8217;m afraid) and used two of the frames on the roll with the Diana + lens on and was very pleased with those results (shown <a href='http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/wp-content/2008/05/davehybrid.jpg' rel="lightbox[holgadiana]" title="Dave ~ a Holga-Diana hybrid photo">here</a>). There&#8217;s more vignetting than I&#8217;m used to, even with the Holga, but perhaps using a true <em>square</em> 16 shot mask would address that issue. As for the pinhole shots, I&#8217;m going to have to modify the camera some more as the images get masked/cropped quite a bit at the edges by the actual square aperture at the shutter when shooting pinhole. I need to move the pinhole much closer to the actual shutter mechanism aperture (see the Holga Diana Hybrid step #2 image), but I&#8217;ll do that at a later stage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Diana, Holga &#8211; Oranges, Apples, Horses, Courses?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few queries have come through my inbox over the last couple of years and I&#8217;ve seen quite a few discussions regarding the differences between Diana and Holga toy cameras and which is better. Let me state right now that value judgements like &#8216;better&#8217; really are subjective markers and what is good for one person [...]]]></description>
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<p> few queries have come through my inbox over the last couple of years and I&#8217;ve seen quite a few discussions regarding the differences between Diana and Holga toy cameras and which is <em><strong>better</strong></em>. Let me state right now that value judgements like &#8216;better&#8217; really are subjective markers and what is good for one person may not apply to others, so I&#8217;m not going to make a value judgement like that. All I can truthfully say is which camera I prefer and use more often based on some of the points outlined below <em>at the time I am writing this</em>, fully expecting my preferred camera(s) to change over time, (sometimes going full circle); for example, lately (as of an edit to this post early 2010) I have been using a great &#8216;Holgamods&#8217; Holga with a waist level viewfinder modification quite a bit.</p>
<h2>Diana cameras:</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.theplasticlens.com/wp-content/2008/11/sleepinghorse.jpg"" title="Sleepy Horse - a Diana + photo with 4x4 mask." rel="lightbox[holga_diana]"><img src="http://www.theplasticlens.com/wp-content/2008/11/sleepinghorse-150x150.jpg" alt="Sleepy Horse - a Diana + photo with 4x4 mask." style="float:right; margin:10px;" /></a> Diana&#8217;s (both the original, clones and the new Diana +) create beautiful &#038; dreamy shots. The exact nature of these unique attributes differ from model to model and indeed from camera to camera. The finder is above the lens in a Diana, making composing more accurate. (or at least less subject to horizontal parallax)<a href="http://www.theplasticlens.com/oldplastic/photos/UnderAngel.jpg" rel="lightbox[holga_diana]" title="Under the Angel - a 'traditional' Diana (151) shot."></a><br />
The <em>original</em> Diana had these attributes:</p>
<ul>
<li>3 aperture settings &#8211; sunny, hazy, cloudy</li>
<li>Most had &#8220;N&#8217; and &#8216;B&#8217; shutter settings, some did not</li>
<li>16 exposures per roll of 120 medium format film</li>
</ul>
<p>They did not have:</p>
<ul>
<li>A Tripod mount</li>
<li>Any kind of consistent result from their lenses &#8211; many variations of degree of vignetting and selective areas of focus from their lenses (note this is not listed as either a good or bad thing, just an attribute!)
</ul>
<p>Here are some things I like about the most recently produced version of the Diana (the <strong><em>Diana + series</em></strong>) in particular:</p>
<ul>
<li>4 apertures (the traditional 3 &#8211; sunny, hazy, cloudy, <em>plus</em> the pinhole)</li>
<li>Choice of 3 negative frame sizes (panoramic, 6&#215;6 and 4&#215;4).</li>
<li>The ability to shoot pinhole shots on the same roll as plastic lens shots.</li>
<li>The ability to shoot pinhole traditionally or with the lens on.</li>
<li>The ability to mount your Diana+ on a tripod, it makes using the &#8220;b&#8221; shutter selection so much easier for pinhole and night shots/long exposures.</li>
<li>The relatively new <em>Diana F +</em> gives the added opportunity for flash photography with the provided flash or using a modern hotshoe flash of your choice with the provided hotshoe adapter.</li>
<li>The plastic doodad (even though it is a bit of a gimmick and fiddly) to allow really long exposure times without physically holding the shutter down).</li>
</ul>
<p>Points against the Diana +:</p>
<ul>
<li>The loading of film is a bit fiddly, not as easy as with the traditional original Diana camera, but you get used to it with practice.</li>
<li>Through some bizarre design oversight/fault, when using the camera in 6&#215;6 format, the exposure sits so high on the negative that it is impossible to scan the whole exposure in using a standard scanning mask unless you modify it (or make your own modified mask)</li>
<li>The film advance can wind on accidently if you are not careful, for example, when putting it in a camera bag.</li>
<li>You can get &#8216;fat rolls&#8217; &#8211; ie the film may not wind on to the take-up spool very tightly leading to the film being loose on the spool when you take it out of the camera &#8211; this can lead to light leaks at the top and bottom of the negative.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Holga 120 format cameras:</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.theplasticlens.com/oldplastic/photos/GirlOnRock.jpg" title="Girl on a Rock - a Holga image with 6x6 mask in the camera." rel="lightbox[holga_diana]"><img src="http://www.theplasticlens.com/oldplastic/thumbs/GirlOnRock.jpg" alt="Girl on a Rock - a Holga image with 6x6 mask in the camera." style="float:left; margin:10px;" /></a><a href="http://www.theplasticlens.com/oldplastic/photos/DragonBoat.jpg" rel="lightbox[holga_diana]" title="Dragon Boat at Luna park - a Holga GFN photo"></a></p>
<p>I like shooting with my Holgas, but I find I don&#8217;t have as much to say about them, perhaps because I have shot fewer rolls through my lensed Holga (I&#8217;ve shot plenty of Holga Pinholes through my pinholga from <a href="http://www.holgamods.com">holgamods</a>) Also I honestly feel that with a generic Holga there is less (as far as &#8216;camera attributes&#8217; are concerned) to say, which may very well be a good thing if you are looking for simplicity of use in your toy cameras.</p>
<ul>
<li>Some people think that the Holga&#8217;s build quality is better than the Diana, personally (from my experience) I feel some things are better, the plastic is thicker, some things are worse &#8211; my Holga&#8217;s back can fall off easily because the design of the clips on mine are loose, I need to use rubber bands. This is probably just my Holga however, I have put a fair bit of strain on those holding clips over the years with the Polaroid back attached (it&#8217;s fairly heavy)</li>
<li>Some people think they leak light more than Dianas too, but <strong>it&#8217;s good practice with any toy camera to tape up any areas prone to light leaks, just in case.</strong></li>
<li>The Holga only has ONE aperture unless you hack it (or buy one of the excellent modified Holgas from Randy at <a href="http://www.holgamods.com">Holgamods</a>). This means that unless you use at least iso 400 film, you&#8217;re photos may be underexposed. Forget about indoor photography unless you have superfast film or you use the tripod and the &#8216;B&#8217; shutter setting (which ironically, on an unmodified Holga, is very difficult to access if you have the camera mounted on a tripod).</li>
<li>The Holga has a tripod thread.</li>
<li>&#8220;N&#8221; and &#8220;B&#8221; shutter speeds.</li>
<li>Some holgas have built in flash (not very powerful), most have a hotshoe.</li>
</ul>
<p>As I mentioned above, ALL plastic cameras have a propensity for LIGHT LEAKS. Some people love light leaks but I find that the unpredictable nature of lightleaks can sometimes ruin an otherwise nice exposure. If you know your camera and exactly where it leaks you can use it creatively in composing your shots, but personally I tape the seams of my cameras to try and prevent them, as well as covering the exposure counter window of my plastic camera when not winding on. (You can also <a href="http://www.theplasticlens.com/blog/2007/light-seal/" title="Light Seal">try this</a>)</p>
<p>*update 2009 &#8211; There is a (new) great comparison <a href="http://www.holgablog.com/2009/07/28/review-holga-vs-diana/">HERE</a> at Holgablog, where the author laments never being able to find a comparative review on the net, my one must have snuck under the radar, might have to add a few more meta-tags! There are also <a href="http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?w=all&#038;q=diana+vs+holga&#038;m=discuss" title="a few discussion threads">quite a few discussion threads</a> (and a lot of redundancy) on the web site flickr if you have the patience to read through them. Be aware that some people join into these discussions with very little practical experience with some of the cameras they are talking about, some may simply be basing their opinions on what they have &#8216;heard&#8217; or personal preferences and/or prejudice &#8211; who would have thought little plastic cameras could generate such debate eh?</p>
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